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			<title>ajt in response to: Meditating under coconut palms</title>
			<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><span class="login user nowrap" rel="bubbletip_user_1"><span class="identity_link_username">ajt</span></span></dc:creator>
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			<description>Hello Mangesh,

Thank you for your comment. I gave a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sahajayoga.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;link to the Sahaja Yoga web site&lt;/a&gt; where people can read the words of Shri Mataji and see her photo. Personally I liked the peaceful message, the people I met at the center and the meditation sessions, but didn&amp;#8217;t want to join the worshipping in front of the photo in the meditation room. Nobody tried to force me into anything so it was all fine. I observed silently, trying not to disturb anyone, and participated just as much as I felt comfortable with.

I believe my short stay at the Sahaja Yoga center was one step on the way of finding my own path, a quest which still continues. I&amp;#8217;m nowadays doing a bit of simple hatha yoga and pilates, combining them with relaxation and silent meditation without any mantras or specific rituals.

Arto&lt;br /&gt;</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello Mangesh,

Thank you for your comment. I gave a <a href="http://www.sahajayoga.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">link to the Sahaja Yoga web site</a> where people can read the words of Shri Mataji and see her photo. Personally I liked the peaceful message, the people I met at the center and the meditation sessions, but didn&#8217;t want to join the worshipping in front of the photo in the meditation room. Nobody tried to force me into anything so it was all fine. I observed silently, trying not to disturb anyone, and participated just as much as I felt comfortable with.

I believe my short stay at the Sahaja Yoga center was one step on the way of finding my own path, a quest which still continues. I&#8217;m nowadays doing a bit of simple hatha yoga and pilates, combining them with relaxation and silent meditation without any mantras or specific rituals.

Arto<br />]]></content:encoded>
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			<title> mangesh wadke in response to: Meditating under coconut palms</title>
			<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 05:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><span class="user anonymous" rel="bubbletip_comment_482">mangesh wadke</span></dc:creator>
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			<description>jsm

please show deatials of nirmal nagri
be coz paepole can understand about sahajyoga and shri mataji please mention word and photograph of shri mataji&lt;br /&gt;</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[jsm

please show deatials of nirmal nagri
be coz paepole can understand about sahajyoga and shri mataji please mention word and photograph of shri mataji<br />]]></content:encoded>
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			<title>ajt in response to: Meditating under coconut palms</title>
			<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 12:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><span class="login user nowrap" rel="bubbletip_user_1"><span class="identity_link_username">ajt</span></span></dc:creator>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your comment and information. Several of the people
I discussed with had been into Sahaja Yoga for many years, yet
the experiences they described didn&amp;#8217;t quite converge. Some said they felt
a breeze, some described they can feel the vibrations of a place, 
at least one had also out-of-body experiences. Calmness and bliss were common features. However, I personally think that different accounts make it more credible - people are individuals and so the feelings should differ as well. If everybody would experience exactly the same, the whole thing 
would start sounding like a brainwash.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;People seem to need different paths. For example I also met
a Hare Krishna follower who had found his bliss through that and 
was convinced that it was the best way.
Personally I feel I&amp;#8217;ll just have to keep it simple. The
buddhists would call it zen but I&amp;#8217;m not sure which would be 
the equivalent word in hinduism. I think it would also be good 
for me to combine meditation with some form of physical yoga. 
I do a few exercises every evening to keep my body in shape
but it&amp;#8217;s not really connected to the meditation.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment and information. Several of the people
I discussed with had been into Sahaja Yoga for many years, yet
the experiences they described didn&#8217;t quite converge. Some said they felt
a breeze, some described they can feel the vibrations of a place, 
at least one had also out-of-body experiences. Calmness and bliss were common features. However, I personally think that different accounts make it more credible - people are individuals and so the feelings should differ as well. If everybody would experience exactly the same, the whole thing 
would start sounding like a brainwash.</p>

<p>People seem to need different paths. For example I also met
a Hare Krishna follower who had found his bliss through that and 
was convinced that it was the best way.
Personally I feel I&#8217;ll just have to keep it simple. The
buddhists would call it zen but I&#8217;m not sure which would be 
the equivalent word in hinduism. I think it would also be good 
for me to combine meditation with some form of physical yoga. 
I do a few exercises every evening to keep my body in shape
but it&#8217;s not really connected to the meditation.</p>
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			<title> Praveen Kumar in response to: Meditating under coconut palms</title>
			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><span class="user anonymous" rel="bubbletip_comment_303">Praveen Kumar</span></dc:creator>
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			<description>Hi
I was looking for some Sahaja Yoga related info and bumped into your blog.

Indeed it is a pleasure to read your memories of travelling through India.

I would like to clarify to you certain things about your thoughts and experience related to Sahaja Yoga.
1. The different feeling that you had, and that others too have, is owing to the reason of our different spiritual level at the time we begin. But soon it converges to similar feeling of a) thoughtless aware state b) Cool breeze blowing predominantly out of palms and top of head. c) feeling of bliss and joy.

2. The worshipping you saw, I too felt it to be odd, but preferred to ignore it for sometime. And when my meditation level improved, I understood very clearly that it was simply a method of thanks giving to the mother who has given such a blissful meditative state so easily to me. And, in fact, I noted that after the worshipping, the meditative state improved much more.

I would thus suggest to you that you explore Sahaja Yoga for more duration at a nearby meditation center and at your home as prescribed - daily mornings and evenings at home and once a week at Sahaja Yoga center. After a period of one or two months, you can decide whether you want to continue or not.

Best wishes.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi
I was looking for some Sahaja Yoga related info and bumped into your blog.

Indeed it is a pleasure to read your memories of travelling through India.

I would like to clarify to you certain things about your thoughts and experience related to Sahaja Yoga.
1. The different feeling that you had, and that others too have, is owing to the reason of our different spiritual level at the time we begin. But soon it converges to similar feeling of a) thoughtless aware state b) Cool breeze blowing predominantly out of palms and top of head. c) feeling of bliss and joy.

2. The worshipping you saw, I too felt it to be odd, but preferred to ignore it for sometime. And when my meditation level improved, I understood very clearly that it was simply a method of thanks giving to the mother who has given such a blissful meditative state so easily to me. And, in fact, I noted that after the worshipping, the meditative state improved much more.

I would thus suggest to you that you explore Sahaja Yoga for more duration at a nearby meditation center and at your home as prescribed - daily mornings and evenings at home and once a week at Sahaja Yoga center. After a period of one or two months, you can decide whether you want to continue or not.

Best wishes.
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